From An Interview with
David Hammons:
1. I CAN'T STAND ART
ACTUALLY. I'VE NEVER, EVER LIKED ART, EVER. I NEVER TOOK IT IN SCHOOL.
2. WHEN I WAS IN
CALIFORNIA, ARTISTS WOULD WORK FOR YEARS AND NEVER HAVE A SHOW. SO
SHOWING HAS NEVER BEEN THAT IMPORTANT TO ME. WE USED TO CUSS PEOPLE OUT:
PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT OUR WORK, DEALERS, ETC., BECAUSE THAT PART OF BEING AN
ARTIST WAS ALWAYS A JOKE TO US.
WHEN I CAME TO NEW
YORK, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT. EVERYBODY WAS JUST GROVELING AND TOMMING,
ANYTHING TO BE IN THE ROOM WITH SOMEBODY WITH SOME MONEY. THERE WERE NO
BAD GUYS HERE; SO I SAID, "LET ME BE A BAD GUY," OR ATTEMPT TO BE A BAD
GUY, OR PLAY WITH THE BAD AREAS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
3. I WAS TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHY BLACK PEOPLE WERE CALLED SPADES, AS OPPOSED TO CLUBS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING CALLED A SPADE ONCE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT
MEANT; NIGGER I KNEW BUT SPADE I STILL DON'T. SO I TOOK THE SHAPE, AND
STARTED PAINTING IT.
4. I JUST LOVE THE
HOUSES IN THE SOUTH, THE WAY THEY BUILT THEM. THAT NEGRITUDE
ARCHITECTURE. I REALLY LOVE TO WATCH THE WAY BLACK PEOPLE MAKE THINGS,
HOUSES OR MAGAZINE STANDS IN HARLEM, FOR INSTANCE. JUST THE WAY WE USE
CARPENTRY. NOTHING FITS, BUT EVERYTHING WORKS. THE DOOR CLOSES, IT KEEPS
THINGS FROM COMING THROUGH. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT NEATNESS ABOUT IT,
THE WAY WHITE PEOPLE PUT THINGS TOGETHER; EVERYTHING IS A THIRTY-SECOND
OF AN INCH OFF.
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Untitled , 1989, glass wine bottles
and silicone glue
5. THAT'S WHY I LIKE
DOING STUFF BETTER ON THE STREET, BECAUSE THE ART BECOMES JUST ONE OF
THE OBJECTS THAT'S IN THE PATH OF YOUR EVERYDAY EXISTENCE. IT'S WHAT YOU
MOVE THROUGH, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SENIORITY OVER ANYTHING ELSE.
THOSE PIECES WERE ALL
ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE BLACK VIEWER HAD A REFLECTION OF HIMSELF IN
THE WORK. WHITE VIEWERS HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMEONE ELSE'S CULTURE IN THOSE
PIECES AND SEE VERY LITTLE OF THEMSELVES IN IT.
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"Untitled", 54 by 60 by 16 inches, 2000
6. ANYONE WHO DECIDES
TO BE AN ARTIST SHOULD REALIZE THAT IT'S A POVERTY TRIP. TO GO INTO THIS
PROFESSION IS LIKE GOING INTO THE MONASTERY OR SOMETHING; IT'S A VOW OF
POVERTY I ALWAYS THOUGHT. TO BE AN ARTIST AND NOT EVEN TO DEAL WITH THAT
POVERTY THING, THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME; OR TO BE AROUND PEOPLE
COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
MY KEY IS TO TAKE AS
MUCH MONEY HOME AS POSSIBLE. ABANDON ANY ART FORM THAT COSTS TOO MUCH.
INSIST THAT IT'S AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE IS NUMBER ONE AND ALSO THAT IT'S
AESTHETICALLY CORRECT. AFTER THAT ANYTHING GOES. AND THAT KEEPS
EVERYTHING INTERESTING FOR ME.
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Untitled, 1993
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folded
American dollar bill
7. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY
WORK IS. I HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR THAT FROM SOMEONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BURN
THE PIECE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE NICE VISUALLY. VIDEOTAPE THE BURNING OF
IT. AND SHOOT SOME SLIDES. THE SLIDES WOULD THEN BE A PIECE IN ITSELF.
I'M GETTING INTO THAT NOW: THE SLIDES ARE THE ART PIECES AND THE ART
PIECES DON'T EXIST.
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Injustice case 1970
8. IF YOU KNOW WHO YOU
ARE THEN IT'S EASY TO MAKE ART. MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
THEIR IMAGE. ARTISTS HAVE ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO BE BOXED IN BY SAYING
"YES" ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE SEEN, AND THEY SHOULD BE
SAYING "NO." I DO MY STREET ART MAINLY TO KEEP ROOTED IN THAT "WHO I
AM." BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY GOING ON IS IN THE STREET;
THAT'S WHERE SOMETHING IS REALLY HAPPENING. IT ISN'T HAPPENING IN THESE
GALLERIES.
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Hammons, Champ,
1989
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Free Mandela
9. DOING THINGS IN THE
STREET IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ART I THINK. BECAUSE ART HAS GOTTEN SO....I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK ART IS ABOUT NOW. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. LIKE
MALCOLM X SAID, IT'S LIKE NOVOCAINE. IT USED TO WAKE YOU UP BUT NOW IT
PUTS YOU TO SLEEP. I THINK THAT ART NOW IS PUTTING PEOPLE TO SLEEP.
THERE'S SO MUCH OF IT AROUND IN THIS TOWN THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHY THE ARTIST HAS TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT HE SHOWS AND WHEN HE
SHOWS NOW. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY LOOKING AT ART, THEY'RE
LOOKING AT EACH OTHER AND EACH OTHER'S CLOTHES AND EACH OTHER'S
HAIRCUTS.
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B Ball
1998, dirt on paper, 40 3/4" x 26"
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'High Falutin' (1990)
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African-American Flag. 1990
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Dyed cotton, 56" x 7' 4"
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Gift of The Over Holland Foundation.
Courtesy the Artist
10. THE ART AUDIENCE IS
THE WORST AUDIENCE IN THE WORLD. IT'S OVERLY EDUCATED, IT'S
CONSERVATIVE, IT'S OUT TO CRITICIZE NOT TO UNDERSTAND, AND IT NEVER HAS
ANY FUN. WHY SHOULD I SPEND MY TIME PLAYING TO THAT AUDIENCE?
DAVID HAMMONS 1986
